Lexus Future Product & Powertrain Megathread (II)

[Gor134]

Now given that the A100 GR Supra and LFA (LFR) are being developed, it looks like they're going to develop an all new platform dubbed as TNGA-A. It should be better than the TNGA-L platform and I suspect that there is a chance that the new IS could ride on that platform if it's not a full-EV.

What's the confirmation/source for A100 GR Supra being developed? I also saw the mention of "TNGA-A" on the Supra forum, but what is the source, this is the first I'm hearing of this.

 

[NXracer]

Definitely. ES buyers aren't installing chargers unless lexus makes it super easy

Side note, I always wondered what the stats are of PHEV owners actually plugging in their vehicles at night are. Most of the limited amount of folks I spoke to who own the new Prime Rav4, have yet to do so since delivery of their new Rav4.

 

[NXracer]

What's the confirmation/source for A100 GR Supra being developed? I also saw the mention of "TNGA-A" on the Supra forum, but what is the source, this is the first I'm hearing of this.

Our very own Supra93

Joking, but am I lol

 

[JustADude]

A100 supra? Who are they partnering with now? They could develop a 3.2L I6 based off G16E, easily seeing 400hp in base format, also put that in the 4IS. I only pray IS doesn't go ev

 

[Gor134]

I only pray IS doesn't go ev

same

 

[NXracer]

same

If it doesnt go EV, its not selling in any appreciable way. The new, luxury market has spoken, and its EV or nothing, supply chain be damned.

 

[nt01]

A100 supra? Who are they partnering with now? They could develop a 3.2L I6 based off G16E, easily seeing 400hp in base format, also put that in the 4IS. I only pray IS doesn't go ev

I’m going to put this on my dear Santa list.

 

[JustADude]

I’m going to put this on my dear Santa list.

oh trust me I've been waiting for a new IS since 2018, only to get disappointed when rumors said its a refresh and it was. the IS500 is a beast though.

 

[nt01]

oh trust me I've been waiting for a new IS since 2018, only to get disappointed when rumors said its a refresh and it was. the IS500 is a beast though.

I like the IS, but it’s too small for me. I’m keeping my finger crossed for the FR crown sedan to be available for North America

 

[Gor134]

The new, luxury market has spoken, and its EV or nothing, supply chain be damned.

No? BMW has a next-gen 3er in the works, separate from the electric i3 coming in 2025, Mercedes just launched the W205 and Audi has the B10 generation A5 coming soon on a brand new "PPC" platform, reinvesting with a whole new lineup of updated powertrains. Each big three are also launching their next-gen ICE 5er, E Class, and in two years new A6.

Still think Lexus can 100% make a case for a new gen IS, I mean the current *uncompetitive and outdated* IS is selling okay and has been on sale since 2014, a truly new gen could sell much better I would think

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

My guess is eTNGA 2.0 for 2025 and future Lexus BEVs. eTNGA needs to transition to cell-to-body by 2025, which requires a redesign to the mid-section.

GA-K like GA-C will be modified to E3 platform that allows PHV/BEV variants to be designed easily, although how that could be done is still beyond me.


There will be no platforms for future sports cars. Every one will have custom chassis optimized for a single purpose with motorsports as priority.

My sources say the platform that the A100 and the LFR will ride on will be called the TNGA-A.

 

[nt01]

No? BMW has a next-gen 3er in the works, separate from the electric i3 coming in 2025, Mercedes just launched the W205 and Audi has the B10 generation A5 coming soon on a brand new "PPC" platform, reinvesting with a whole new lineup of updated powertrains. Each big three are also launching their next-gen ICE 5er, E Class, and in two years new A6.

Still think Lexus can 100% make a case for a new gen IS, I mean the current *uncompetitive and outdated* IS is selling okay and has been on sale since 2014, a truly new gen could sell much better I would think

Good to know Audi is finally moving away from MLB and MLB evo platform, is the new PPC platform still going to have the engine place entirely in front of front axle?

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

What's the confirmation/source for A100 GR Supra being developed? I also saw the mention of "TNGA-A" on the Supra forum, but what is the source, this is the first I'm hearing of this.

You're referring to PerformanceSound, and there are others as well who echo his words as well. Insider information, to be specific.

 

[CRSKTN]

What if i told you we arent going to be able to produce enough materials to support the current proposed rate of transition to ZEV if we rely purely on BEVs🤫

 

[JustADude]

My sources say the platform that the A100 and the LFR will ride on will be called the TNGA-A.

So toyota actually making their own sports cars with their own money? Definitely the Lexus will be 100% Toyota made, but good to know there is another supra on the way, want a I6 in there based on G16E

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

So toyota actually making their own sports cars with their own money? Definitely the Lexus will be 100% Toyota made, but good to know there is another supra on the way, want a I6 in there based on G16E

I think what people need to understand is that Toyota beginning to build their own sports cars hinged on the fact that the partnerships had to be successful in order to justify doing things themselves.

And they did.

So they will.

 

[JustADude]

I think what people need to understand is that Toyota beginning to build their own sports cars hinged on the fact that the partnerships had to be successful in order to justify doing things themselves.

And they did.

So they will.

hopefully.

 

[NXracer]

What if i told you we arent going to be able to produce enough materials to support the current proposed rate of transition to ZEV if we rely purely on BEVs🤫

I can see where you are coming from being invested into the funding behind the EV landscape, and I respect that.

The issue here is the great divide between the public messaging from politicians and car companies alike and insiders/in the know industry folks.

For instance, we see everyone put in deadlines from 2025-2035 on the politician side of things, we have Toyota publicly state that everything from 2030 in Lexus is moving to electric, and then we have ICE motor development being wound down across the board.

 

[Gor134]

Good to know Audi is finally moving away from MLB and MLB evo platform, is the new PPC platform still going to have the engine place entirely in front of front axle?

It is to my understanding PPC will still follow the MLB-style engine over the front but still longitudinal, especially judging by the new B10 spyshots. Unfortunate, but wasn't expecting anything more :/ least the next gen Avants are coming to the US finally!

 

[nt01]

It is to my understanding PPC will still follow the MLB-style engine over the front but still longitudinal, especially judging by the new B10 spyshots. Unfortunate, but wasn't expecting anything more :/ least the next gen Avants are coming to the US finally!

Do you mean allroad, or are we finally getting RS/S4 avant for B10 generation in the US?