Lexus Future Product & Powertrain Megathread (II)

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Just have to wait a few more days for its debut, not sure if we'll see an engine that's as impressive as its interior lol.
The 1.5 and 1.5 hybrid are perfectly fine for the markets it's sold in...try driving on a typical Southeast Asian street and you'd be lucky to get above 50km/h.
 

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The 1.5 and 1.5 hybrid are perfectly fine for the markets it's sold in...try driving on a typical Southeast Asian street and you'd be lucky to get above 50km/h.
What I meant was the new Vios might still reuse the slightly disappointing 2NR-FE instead of switching over to the M15A-FKS.

But then the rumours I heard from Thailand said there will be a hybrid version for this new Vios and that version would actually be using the M15A hybrid. It's confusing.
 

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What I meant was the new Vios might still reuse the slightly disappointing 2NR-FE instead of switching over to the M15A-FKS.

But then the rumours I heard from Thailand said there will be a hybrid version for this new Vios and that version would actually be using the M15A hybrid. It's confusing.
Thailand has lower excise tax rates for "eco cars" under 1300cc. In India the line is 1200cc. I don't think the base Vios will use the 1500cc 2NR but rather the 1200cc 3NR-FE. 1200cc is the sweetspot for most of SEA.

I don't know if they will switch to the cheaper 3-cylinder WA-VE engine from Daihatsu, but it's a rather new engine and it will require investing in new production infrastructure.
 

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Thailand has lower excise tax rates for "eco cars" under 1300cc. In India the line is 1200cc. I don't think the base Vios will use the 1500cc 2NR but rather the 1200cc 3NR-FE. 1200cc is the sweetspot for most of SEA.

I don't know if they will switch to the cheaper 3-cylinder WA-VE engine from Daihatsu, but it's a rather new engine and it will require investing in new production infrastructure.
Yeah, the very base Vios will most likely still use a 1.2l engine in Thailand, just not sure which one. So far, only the base model Rocky and Raize in Indonesia is using the WA-VE engine. Recently saw a video on Instagram showing the workers at the Vios' assembly line in Indonesia, holding letters that say "SAYONARA VIOS", probably a sign that they are stopping production of the current gen and getting ready to start the new one. In Malaysia, the Vios has always only been available with a 1.5l engine, so I'm not familiar with the very base engine options available in other SEA countries. We also usually don't drive as slowly as some other SEA countries.

They might just carryover the NR engines for the petrol-only versions and you would have to buy the hybrid version to get a DF powertrain.