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I have heard nothing from Lexus regarding update on ML system. I’m more enthused about the sound coming from the rear end in sport + while using paddle shifters than this ML surround?? system. Some sound formats sound better than others but overall quality, tone and dispersion is a dud! To each is own but disappointed in lack of response from Lexus!
 

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I have experienced many car audio systems but expressed my dissatisfaction withML audio system in my LC500.Spoke with Lexus and dealer as I feel the system front loads all the music regardless of source.Surround is a joke with this system . There should be a fullness of sound with more from rear speakers . Thought my amplifier might be defective but not the case. Dealership acknowledged and hope they can produce an update fix for this.
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Maybe it’s just the size and way the cabin was designed. Very small interior inside, maybe that has a play in it all.
 
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I have experienced many car audio systems but expressed my dissatisfaction withML audio system in my LC500.Spoke with Lexus and dealer as I feel the system front loads all the music regardless of source.Surround is a joke with this system . There should be a fullness of sound with more from rear speakers . Thought my amplifier might be defective but not the case. Dealership acknowledged and hope they can produce an update fix for this.
Would like to hear other comments regarding M levinson in LC500
I took my LC back to the dealers yesterday 1 week after I bought it. Convinced the ML sound system had a fault. Could not fade the sound towards the rear. All that happens is the volume decreases at the front until it goes off with hardly any volume from the rear. To all intents and purposes the sound remains forward of the driver near the middle of the dashboard. Hardly earth shattering premium surround sound! Just about the worst performing stereo I have ever had. I have owned Porsche, Merc, Toyota, Jaguar, Ford, Rover, Vauxhall, Renault and this is so disappointing by comparison with any other.
Dealer confirmed this is working correctly.
What a let down it has turned out to be.
Lexus have dropped the ball on this one and ML needs to get a new hearing aid!
 
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Just adding insult to injury and furthering my displeasure with the ML sound system in my LC ........ I was loaned a new NX 300 (40+k automobile). Whatever Soundsystem was in that loaner still exceeded sound quality in most all ways to the Mark Levinson in my LC 500. No fix in sight. Just the way it was designed and unfortunately will have to live with it!
 
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it is what it is, the car is still a treat and an attention getter, many pluses as u know.
 
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Yes laceman54, the ML in my LC500 is the same as yours and not all that great. But as we know, the car itself sounds awesome and the ML could be worse... but I agree it's too front loaded and changing the fader settings yields less than optimal results.
 
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Hi All, New owner of LC500 2017 model and was staggered at poor quality of ML. I thought it had a fault as just sounded tinny with no improvement from using fader. I am no audiophile but have had ML in other cars as well as HK, Bose and B&W. Other than standard BMW speakers this is probably the worst I have heard in last 20 years of car ownership. Such a disappointment. Reading these posts make me think this is a design issue so no point in taking it to a dealer to see if there is a fault.
 
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Thank goodness it's not just me. I just got a 2022 LC500 convertible. The ML system is really disappointing. I've tried almost all reasonable combinations of neutral tone, boost/cut across combinations of treble/mid/bass, fader front/back, surround on/off, auto adapt on/off, etc. and can't find even a passable blend. It also seems to vary depending on the source material - some of it sounds OK, but much of it sounds very tinny, with minimal mid-range, and biased to the center dash speaker.

I've owned a large number of cars (I'm old), some with aftermarket radios, some with default OEM, and some with "premium" OEM radios. My 2019 RDX with the ELS Studio premium OEM sounds infinitely better than this with minimal adjustment from defaults. My old 2009 Honda Fit (!) sounded better than this.

I haven't been back to the dealership yet, but I do intend to complain when I do go. Maybe if Lexus gets enough continued blowback, they'll try to do something about it. Given how some members here seem to have a better sound experience with their cars, I have to wonder if there are defective amps or head units in the field that some of us are burdened with. Of all the YouTube reviews of the car that I saw, I don't recall anyone complaining about the audio - they usually just praised the exhaust note and whined about the trackpad - maybe they never turned the radio on...

I did see where someone in a UK Lexus group had changed out the default amp with an aftermarket unit with adjustable DSP so he at least has a chance of balancing the audio. He had a source there that built a custom harness adaptor, so no wire-cutting/tapping involved.

I intend to feed some white and pink noise through the unit to see what it looks like with a spectrum analyzer. I don't expect a very flat response curve.
 
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I have experienced many car audio systems but expressed my dissatisfaction withML audio system in my LC500.Spoke with Lexus and dealer as I feel the system front loads all the music regardless of source.Surround is a joke with this system . There should be a fullness of sound with more from rear speakers . Thought my amplifier might be defective but not the case. Dealership acknowledged and hope they can produce an update fix for this.
Would like to hear other comments regarding M levinson in LC500
 
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We bought a 2023 LC 500 convertible two weeks ago! My wife has been driving it. This past weekend my son, who is a sound i engineer, wanted to test drive the LC He said something must be wrong with the sound system! He went into some detail, but it was mainly Tinnry with weak subwoofer! He works with mainly pro equipment so he told me he was not an expert on sound systems in cars, but this was obviously bad, He compared it with other cars we have and I could obviously tell it was not right! My wife took it back to Lexus today to get a couple of warranty things done! And they told her (and gave us a video )that the system is working correctly! If that’s the case, why put it in a LC 500 and charge extra for it!
 
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I have a 2022 convertible with standard pioneer system which sounds fine to me?
Not the most important part of the car!
 
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take the surround sound off .

when surround sound is on the rears are pretty much just spatial sounds …when it’s off you will hear full range audio in the back
 

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take the surround sound off .

when surround sound is on the rears are pretty much just spatial sounds …when it’s off you will hear full range audio in the back

Don't bother. Nearly this entire thread is 70 year olds telling you about their hearing and how the Mazda they owned 20 years ago sounded better (hint: maybe its not the speakers that arent working as well)

The LC system needs volume to be appreciated, and you need to turn off some of the spatial gimmicks. Beyond that it's fine.
 
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I bought two 2023 vehicles a GV 80 Genesis and LC 500 convertible Lexus. The LC 500 ML does not sound near as good as the GV 80. My son, who is a sound engineer, has the new Cadillac CT5 V and the Mark Levinson doesn't sound near as good. This has nothing to do with age. I have five cars and the only one that may sounds worse than the LC is my classic C2 Corvette with its basic AM/FM stereo radio? ( A tossup with my Jeep)! I do wonder if this is a convertible issue?
 
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I bought two 2023 vehicles a GV 80 Genesis and LC 500 convertible Lexus. The LC 500 ML does not sound near as good as the GV 80. My son, who is a sound engineer, has the new Cadillac CT5 V and the Mark Levinson doesn't sound near as good. This has nothing to do with age. I have five cars and the only one that may sounds worse than the LC is my classic C2 Corvette with its basic AM/FM stereo radio? ( A tossup with my Jeep)! I do wonder if this is a convertible issue?
Mine is a coupe and same issue. switching off surround and turning up the volume made marginal difference. Biggest gain is by using non compressed files.