LS-F might be in 2023... so you are always waiting for next year .With it being one year away just about it will be good to wait to see what they will do. I'm going to get the gas motor whether it is the TTV6 or the V8. if there is a V8.
Yes, for European market I see v6tt + v6 hybrid as your options. However they might actually kill v6tt in Europe next year and leave only v6 hybrid due to CAFE rules on CO2.@spwolf Morning Sir.. here are my thoughts on this. Well we all know now that the TTV8 is coming. That probably means the 5.0 V8 currently in production is dead which leaves me to believe that the LS won't be getting a detuned V8 and more gains in the TTV6. For me thats more than fine on the power front because with that engine it is no where near being tapped out on power. I'm thinking they will add more power to it next year in the refresh. If they do make the LSF which they probably will the TTV8 will be in that. i just want the base model LS not the sport version or "F" model. Now I'm hearing that the TTV6 is being hybridize and if that is the case i will take a serious hard look at that because with the base motor your already getting 416HP and probably more when the refresh comes and with the electric motors it will probably push it close to 500HP. If that is the case i will get the hybrid.
I am not so sure that hybrid issue would be lack of power at low end, because electric motors are helping from 0rpm. I would think the problem was transmission and integration which was actually supposedly much improved in 2020:@spwolf no sir i haven't tried it yet. I should though. Why don't you think the TTV6 plus Hybrid won't come here? That has been the biggest issue with Hybrid is the lack or low end power and accerlation through out the powerband. From what I read is it a weak engine sluggish. The TTV6 with the added batteries will make it better.
That it's a hybrid is even more impressive. It does a very good job of disguising its hybridness, especially when driving with vigor. Throttle response is well-calibrated (even Comfort mode doesn't make things all inert and squishy), and as Snyder noted, you actually get some nice engine song piped into the cabin. The snarl is certainly not something you're expecting from a big Lexus hybrid sedan with an executive back seat package. Acceleration doesn't take your breath away, but even if it's slower than the turbo-V6 LS 500, it doesn't feel slow and I wouldn't hesitate to choose the hybrid.
The LS hybrid has that trick transmission — a magical union of CVT and four-speed automatic — as part of the Multi-Stage Hybrid System that won our Tech of the Year award as tested in the Lexus LC 500h back in 2018. It's a sweet complement to the soulful V6 underhood, and provides a nice experience when left to its own devices or when using the paddle shifters to switch among 10 effective gear ratios. It works quickly, smoothly, and efficiently all at once.