Introducing the All-New 2018 Lexus LS 500 & LS 500h

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That's not quite the same though, I like the contrasting black panels on the F Sport version more than the plain white. (Not that the plain white isn't pretty stunning!)
 

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High praise for the big boy - seems that some of those 2020 revisions went a long way:

Maybe the LS was rushed to sales because of the huge delay. It was good enough, they would iron out the issues later on, at the expense of first buyers, that probably already had moved to rivals.
 

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So where is the LS-F? Poorer selling Audi (VAG) had no hesitation to develop and now debut a new high performance S8, so I'm not sure what Toyota has planned, so far for Lexus.

There is no LS-F trademark yet, despite this "sportier" shift for their LS flagship. I would have expected to know something by now semi-officially like with the LC-F.

When the XJR575 and Panamera Turbo (and higher) already exist, I would hope Lexus would try to get on with it, after already alienating many traditional LS buyers by targeting them and not the S-Class (W222 was being benchmarked until 2014ish).

Or was the idea to position the LS where the GS...? Anyway, they need to put their money where their mouth is and develop a halo model in a timely fashion. You are supposed to develop a high performance model as soon as design work is done for the main body (2014), not when the whole program concludes (2017) and then spend another 4 years.

BMW M models would never come out quickly enough, if the M Division waited until the first new generation models were done with engineering and rolling off assembly. It takes 3-4 years to do a well executed performance variant, so you get those responsible involved from half to 3/4s of the way during general development.

Waiting until mid-cycle is poor planning and product cadence. Not to mention a decade since this TMG 650 would've been conjured up.

I guess pushed back. Haven’t heard a thing recently. The S8 now starts at 130k and is LWB only....
 

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High praise for the big boy - seems that some of those 2020 revisions went a long way:

What were the changes they made for 2020 again?

Funny to see Lexus LS being referred to as the ultimate driving machine in this case, on a site like autoblog, compared to a BMW rival. I think even 5 or so years ago that would have been unthinkable.

The real question now is, did they do the right thing with the shift to a sportier vehicle? Where should the traditional LS buyers go in the lineup for the cushy, super lux option?
 

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What were the changes they made for 2020 again?

Funny to see Lexus LS being referred to as the ultimate driving machine in this case, on a site like autoblog, compared to a BMW rival. I think even 5 or so years ago that would have been unthinkable.

The real question now is, did they do the right thing with the shift to a sportier vehicle? Where should the traditional LS buyers go in the lineup for the cushy, super lux option?
That would be the Genesis G90/Kia K900. They don't mask they are old school boats. The G90 seems to have done decently well and offers a V-8 option.

A vehicle that is really slept on for various reasons is the CT6. No joke I was looking at the 550hp CT6-V. Its loaded and can be had under 100k with discounts. Huge interior and I like the squarish bodystyle a ton. Drives sporty too like a LS for this class.
 
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