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Well I can't resist posting my own thread. This forum looks so refreshingly knowledgeable and objective. I've been lurking for a while. I met Carmaker1 on club Lexus awhile back when I introduced myself as a mechanical engineering student and I ended up doing my senior thesis in ECOcar3 for the Colorado State University powerhouse institute engines and energy lab.
I am currently doing my second B.S in computer engineering at csu ft Collins. I'm into Adas, MOST and other controls stuff. Anyways, I've lurked enough and seen regular contributions from Carmaker1 and possibly some others with some engineering and actual industry knowledge.
I'm pretty much fed up with mainstream media like car and driver, motor trend, Jalopnik, redline reviews, anything other than IEEE SAE intl and Automotive News. Not to offend but the journalists keep acting as experts and with their communications degrees typically are wrong on 90 percent of the stuff I read. I suffered through the intensity of mechanical engineering school that reading those articles literally offend me.
That's why I'm here. I'm here to talk with people who actually know cars.
I saw a thread over the new 2018 Camry development. And man when those cars hit the streets, the front fascia of the xse coming at you really mesmorized me. Few cars of any price range has done that for me.
I read Carmaker1 and Gecko mention that the new 2018 Camry was Toyotas internal vision of retro interpretation of the 1992. I own a 1992 Camry xle now equipped with a leather swap in midnight blue. I bought a parts car for 600 dollars that had the rare leather and gathered leather door cards. I also installed some Ls400 walnut switchgear housings. I had to use alittle super glue for it to hold. I know kinda redneck mod haha.
So the new Camry certainly looks incredible I'd say. But what I'm wondering is- how does it compare to the engineering and build quality of a 1992 Gen 3 sxv10? From my extensive research the gen 3 was a unicorn of it's segment. In many ways it wasn't even a midsize family sedan. It took the GD&T tolerances, CMM standards and metallurgy developed for the Ls400. It also adopted many NVH techniques from the Ls400 like the flush windows and resin core metal layering. In engineering they force you to learn calculus because of the definition of a limit and the epsilon range is used in specifying tolerance allowance.
While the gen 3 and ls400 both look mundane and dated today, I wonder if the 1992 Camry debuted with a similar reaction for it's time.
However, does the 2018 match the 1992 in terms of over engineering? The sheet metal thickness, rust prevention, upholstery feel and noise we're jaw dropping at the time. I sat in a 2018 at a dealership. While nice, I didn't feel like the materials were as high end. One thing that impressed me about my old 92 is that my neighbor and friend has a BMW and Benz amg c63, and even after stepping out of those cars, the Camry still impresses me.
I am currently doing my second B.S in computer engineering at csu ft Collins. I'm into Adas, MOST and other controls stuff. Anyways, I've lurked enough and seen regular contributions from Carmaker1 and possibly some others with some engineering and actual industry knowledge.
I'm pretty much fed up with mainstream media like car and driver, motor trend, Jalopnik, redline reviews, anything other than IEEE SAE intl and Automotive News. Not to offend but the journalists keep acting as experts and with their communications degrees typically are wrong on 90 percent of the stuff I read. I suffered through the intensity of mechanical engineering school that reading those articles literally offend me.
That's why I'm here. I'm here to talk with people who actually know cars.
I saw a thread over the new 2018 Camry development. And man when those cars hit the streets, the front fascia of the xse coming at you really mesmorized me. Few cars of any price range has done that for me.
I read Carmaker1 and Gecko mention that the new 2018 Camry was Toyotas internal vision of retro interpretation of the 1992. I own a 1992 Camry xle now equipped with a leather swap in midnight blue. I bought a parts car for 600 dollars that had the rare leather and gathered leather door cards. I also installed some Ls400 walnut switchgear housings. I had to use alittle super glue for it to hold. I know kinda redneck mod haha.
So the new Camry certainly looks incredible I'd say. But what I'm wondering is- how does it compare to the engineering and build quality of a 1992 Gen 3 sxv10? From my extensive research the gen 3 was a unicorn of it's segment. In many ways it wasn't even a midsize family sedan. It took the GD&T tolerances, CMM standards and metallurgy developed for the Ls400. It also adopted many NVH techniques from the Ls400 like the flush windows and resin core metal layering. In engineering they force you to learn calculus because of the definition of a limit and the epsilon range is used in specifying tolerance allowance.
While the gen 3 and ls400 both look mundane and dated today, I wonder if the 1992 Camry debuted with a similar reaction for it's time.
However, does the 2018 match the 1992 in terms of over engineering? The sheet metal thickness, rust prevention, upholstery feel and noise we're jaw dropping at the time. I sat in a 2018 at a dealership. While nice, I didn't feel like the materials were as high end. One thing that impressed me about my old 92 is that my neighbor and friend has a BMW and Benz amg c63, and even after stepping out of those cars, the Camry still impresses me.