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if leuxs had both bof and performance unibody suvs, they'd distroy the market, just make sure infotainment has all is needed and works well, no need gimmick either.
 

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A few days ago I finally had a chance to ride in a Middle East-spec GX460. The owner spent almost ¥1M to import it (about 25% more than LC 4600). I am astonished by the comfort of this SUV. The smoothness of the V8 is as good as the old LS430/460. There's zero engine noise, feels like a BEV even going WOT (also has a BEV-like torque curve). The ride is also as good as an old 2000s LS. It's definitely way better than all the J150 and J200s we get. I don't understand people saying it rides like a truck. It definitely is more comfortable than the RX, but that's probably also because the ChDM RX300 is just so frustrating to drive.

Now I see why it's so popular in America. Sometimes people just want a big, comfortable SUV. For $52k I see how it makes a lot of sense (I probably would choose it over say a ES350 and definitely over a RX350). To me this feels like a true replacement for the old school LS sedans for owners who don't like the flashy styling of 5LS. But at import price it's definitely no go for me. Would rather get a LC 5700 for slightly more.
 

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A few days ago I finally had a chance to ride in a Middle East-spec GX460. The owner spent almost ¥1M to import it (about 25% more than LC 4600). I am astonished by the comfort of this SUV. The smoothness of the V8 is as good as the old LS430/460. There's zero engine noise, feels like a BEV even going WOT (also has a BEV-like torque curve). The ride is also as good as an old 2000s LS. It's definitely way better than all the J150 and J200s we get. I don't understand people saying it rides like a truck. It definitely is more comfortable than the RX, but that's probably also because the ChDM RX300 is just so frustrating to drive.

Now I see why it's so popular in America. Sometimes people just want a big, comfortable SUV. For $52k I see how it makes a lot of sense (I probably would choose it over say a ES350 and definitely over a RX350). To me this feels like a true replacement for the old school LS sedans for owners who don't like the flashy styling of 5LS. But at import price it's definitely no go for me. Would rather get a LC 5700 for slightly more.
Glad you were able to experience the GX... it really is a very unique vehicle, which I think is why it continues to sell so well and be so desirable in the used market. It's not for everyone, but the overall feeling of quality and refinement is unmatched for the price, IMO.
 

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The GX460 is a love/hate vehicle. Most people who own it for sometimes love it for what it is and what it does best. Auto reviewers in general hate it because it their 15 minutes experience.

With the recent 15+ inches of snow, the GX is a perfect vehicle for un-plowed streets.
This is soooo true. As an owner of a current 4Runner, having had two previous 4Runners, and having a GX in the family, none of them are vehicles that will shock and wow you on a first drive: the handling is sloppy, they're comparatively slow, the tech is old, and they lack visual pizazz compared to many crossovers.

For those reasons, I can see how hopping from an X5 to a GX, or an Explorer ST to a 4Runner, you wouldn't exactly be enthused. But that is where the experience of being an auto reviewer vs. an owner really diverge... when "real life" comes around with day-to-day commutes on crumbling roads and potholes, "go anywhere" capability, packing in kids/pets/gear, and you only have to go in for scheduled service over 150k miles, the GX and 4Runner start to shine. And in the case of the GX, you have all of the little details and daily luxuries that Lexus does so well, which just makes the experience even better. The sales numbers and desirability of Toyota BOF products speak for themselves, and tell quite a different story compared to many auto reviewers.
 

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how is it the gx is so much better than prado? prado is underpowered and gx has no diesel.
 
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