2nd Generation Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ Thread

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Yeah the GR86 is so impressively refined and improved over the GT86, only major thing I really dislike about it is the pumped in audio.
 

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Since we know the G16E-GTS can be converted for longitudinal use (the Super Taikyu GR86 has a de-stroked 1.4L), I wonder if a GRMN version can get that engine. 268PS for GR86 is a lot of power considering its weight. As a side effect it would also have better fuel economy and emissions compliance.
 

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Since we know the G16E-GTS can be converted for longitudinal use (the Super Taikyu GR86 has a de-stroked 1.4L), I wonder if a GRMN version can get that engine. 268PS for GR86 is a lot of power considering its weight. As a side effect it would also have better fuel economy and emissions compliance.
And better weight distribution. And tuned it could make +400 PS. But also turbo lag.
 
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Since we know the G16E-GTS can be converted for longitudinal use (the Super Taikyu GR86 has a de-stroked 1.4L), I wonder if a GRMN version can get that engine. 268PS for GR86 is a lot of power considering its weight. As a side effect it would also have better fuel economy and emissions compliance.

CoG?
 

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Inline engines can always be slanted. The Supra has lower CoG than 86. If CoG was such a big problem they wouldn't race it with G"14"E-GTS.

The G16 is almost 50kg lighter than FA24 so it not only makes 86 even lighter it also improves weight distribution. I think that's a better argument compared to the CoG.
 

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@ssun30 the main issue should be convincing Subaru to build it… Without the boxer engine, Subaru input might be residual…
Even the majority of patents and trademarks have been applied by Toyota, not Subaru…

That G16 engine would also help with lower taxes, a lot of Europe applies taxes on displacement.
 
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@ssun30 the main issue should be convincing Subaru to build it… Without the boxer engine, Subaru input might be residual…
Even the majority of patents and trademarks have been applied by Toyota, not Subaru…

That G16 engine would also help with lower taxes, a lot of Europe applies taxes on displacement.

Maybe Subaru will be out of the picture in the foreseeable future.
 
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Inline engines can always be slanted. The Supra has lower CoG than 86. If CoG was such a big problem they wouldn't race it with G"14"E-GTS.

The G16 is almost 50kg lighter than FA24 so it not only makes 86 even lighter it also improves weight distribution. I think that's a better argument compared to the CoG.
Fair argument.
 
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