2020 Toyota Tacoma

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Knowing both that Toyota dealers have received a high number of complaints about the transmission, and how unpopular the powertrain has been with enthusiasts/buyers, I am surprised that there were no revisions to the powertrain. I suppose it's possible that Toyota could have revised and updated the shift logic within the existing 6AT and they wouldn't be reflected in any press materials. However, they have tried to issue several TSiBs to fix it with no real solution, so that makes me think the problem is more widespread.

Toyota is lucky that gas prices are so low right now - it's effectively the one thing that's allowing them to continue selling 10-15 year old hardware without consequence. MPG in Toyota trucks and SUVs is so far below competitors that it is a noticeable difference in real world application. No biggie when gas is $2.20 a gallon. As you start crossing $3/gal, people pay more attention IMO.

I hope TNGA-F is as much of a leap forward as they need.
 

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Knowing both that Toyota dealers have received a high number of complaints about the transmission, and how unpopular the powertrain has been with enthusiasts/buyers, I am surprised that there were no revisions to the powertrain. I suppose it's possible that Toyota could have revised and updated the shift logic within the existing 6AT and they wouldn't be reflected in any press materials. However, they have tried to issue several TSiBs to fix it with no real solution, so that makes me think the problem is more widespread.

Toyota is lucky that gas prices are so low right now - it's effectively the one thing that's allowing them to continue selling 10-15 year old hardware without consequence. MPG in Toyota trucks and SUVs is so far below competitors that it is a noticeable difference in real world application. No biggie when gas is $2.20 a gallon. As you start crossing $3/gal, people pay more attention IMO.

I hope TNGA-F is as much of a leap forward as they need.
OVTune's 2GR-FKS/6AT fix is almost complete. I am genuinely surprised Toyota is too cheap to fix their issues because they can get away with it. They are literally outdone by a third-party tuner shop.

Three years ago Toyota pulled the Land Cruiser out of the chinese market because they were too cheap to re-certify the drivetrain for emissions (the excuse they gave was, you guessed it, 'poor demand'). The grey importers ended up flashing new engine software themselves and now these guys sell 30k LC200s at 25% markup (so much for the 'poor demand' part). In fact they even contracted third-party tuners to develop upgrades to make the LC200 comply with the upcoming 2021 emission standards.
 
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