16th Generation Toyota Crown (Sedan, Cross, Sport, Estate/Signia)

What do you think it is?

  • Lexus GS

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • Toyota Crown

    Votes: 32 80.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 10.0%

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Ali Manai

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20221020_031732.jpgIf they body colour those slide panels and remove that plastic cladding or replace it with chrome or aluminum it will look a lot more premium. 20221019_154459.jpgSide by side the newer one doesn't really look that high but the older one just looks and feels more premium.
 

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Gecko

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$54k for the platinum, in this sedan market, for a mainstream branded product.

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Damn Road and Track, MT and C&D were impressed by how it drives. This is the standard that TNGA-K platforms should be aiming for. Efficient, comfortable, yet pretty damn capable.

Don't look at C&D comments if you don't want an aneurysm.
 

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Not sure where else to put this, but I really hate this new frond end Toyota is using on everything: bZ4x, bZ3, Crown, etc.

It's really bionic and stupid looking. This Crown is cool and has a lot of legitimate merits, but the front end is BUSTED. I really hope Camry, Corolla, Prius, etc aren't getting this soon.
 

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Not sure where else to put this, but I really hate this new frond end Toyota is using on everything: bZ4x, bZ3, Crown, etc.

It's really bionic and stupid looking. This Crown is cool and has a lot of legitimate merits, but the front end is BUSTED. I really hope Camry, Corolla, Prius, etc aren't getting this soon.
I am ok with front. It is the rear that has me more worried.
 

Sulu

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$54k for the platinum, in this sedan market, for a mainstream branded product.

😳

Lexus ES US prices.jpg

The Crown is as expensive as the Lexus ES (in the USA) -- or even more expensive in the case of the Crown Platinum with Hybrid Max -- yet the ES has the much better interior (and more aspirational badge).

What is Toyota thinking?

Does this mean that Lexus will be raising prices of the ES?
 

Will1991

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Another indication that the ES might replace the LS sedan? Maybe go a bit upmarket in the top trims? We should get a ES500h, with the same powertrain in the Crown it should be a no brainer.
 

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If the ES replaces the LS, do we lose the entry-level sedan? That would be unfortunate. Or could we have a wider range of ES trims and models, from entry-level to powerful and luxurious?

On the widening of the range, I agree we should get an ES 500h, in addition to an ES 450h+ PHEV, seeing that the Crown will soon get a PHEV model.
 

Levi

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If the ES replaces the LS, do we lose the entry-level sedan? That would be unfortunate. Or could we have a wider range of ES trims and models, from entry-level to powerful and luxurious?

On the widening of the range, I agree we should get an ES 500h, in addition to an ES 450h+ PHEV, seeing that the Crown will soon get a PHEV model.
While we are at it, ES 550h+.....


.....and IS 600 F Sport Performance.
 

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Another indication that the ES might replace the LS sedan? Maybe go a bit upmarket in the top trims? We should get a ES500h, with the same powertrain in the Crown it should be a no brainer.
If we do I hope it's not ES500h FSP like the RX. It should just be ES500h standard with an optional F Sport handling for more sporty driving. 367hp in an ES would be amazing.