Lexus Considers Hybrid & Full Electric Powertrains for Next-Gen Performance Models

[carguy420]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/lexus/104068/lexus-boss-hints-at-electrified-f-performance-models

A standalone F GT hybrid model? interesting...

 

[ssun30]

Sure, they've been teasing this for years. Show us.

 

[Levi]

Sure, they've been teasing this for years. Show us.

Not as many years as those from... you know from where...

 

[carguy420]

They are going to take a few more decades to put THS-R into production. :no_mouth:

 

[krew]

Lexus Considers Hybrid & Full Electric Powertrains for Next-Gen Performance Models

All options are on the table.

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[Levi]

TTV8 or TTV6+Hybrid?

I would maybe prefer the later. Anything over 1800 kg is not lightweight for a car (unless a SUV), so why not profit from electric torque? The car will also be better balanced as we see with LC 500 vs LC 500h.

 

[Gecko]

Quite frankly, I don't care if it's solar power - I am here for any and all powertrain options from Lexus, but let's just start somewhere and fast track it to production.

 

[Ian Schmidt]

A BEV LC with Tesla-like performance would certainly turn some heads.

 

[spwolf]

A BEV LC with Tesla-like performance would certainly turn some heads.

Reading through what he said, it could be a hybrid, not BEV, but maybe a plugin with more performance.

 

[Ian Schmidt]

I think there's more performance to get out of the existing LC hybrid, if they get someone to properly tune the software. A larger battery would help too, I'm sure.

 

[GTG]

Let’s pray . Hummmmmm !!! God please send this as fast as possible ! Amen .

 

[krew]

krew

Lexus Plans to Boost Performance Lineup with Hybrid Technology

Exploring the options.

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[maiaramdan]

May be the hybrid V8TT I have told that it will be matters and I even wrote it here

 

[GTG]

Make it and it will be bought . For 130 Tops no let’s not ask for anything over 150 that would be a bus.

 

[ssun30]

I can't help but question how a LC-F could receive a hybrid drivetrain. The torque from a forced induction V8 AND an electric motor=misery for the rear wheels. Adding a motor to RWD is simply asking for trouble.

A traditional AWD setup would be very complicated and heavy. And being a front-engine vehicle there is no space to add through-the-road AWD. The whole point about hybrid AWD is the front motor(s) pulling the car straight allowing a much earlier corner exit, that's why LMP1-H is so fast. The only good way to utilize THS-R is Lexus building a mid-engine car.

 

[carguy420]

Just the new forced induction V8 alone is going to bring hell to the rear tyres of the LC-F.

A through the road AWD system is suitable for the rear axle of an FF layout and the front axle of MR and RR layout. It's technically possible for the front axle of an FR layout but it wouldn't be an optimal choice, as you will need to use tiny little in-wheel electric motors for each front wheel, which generates hardly any power to help the car accelerate quickly out of the corners, plus it increases unsprung mass of the front suspension.
See the Denso SARD Supra HV-R.

 

[flexus]

Toyota will form new EV battery manufacturing company with Panasonic in 2020. Toyota will have 51% and Panasonic 49% of shares. Panasonic will still make batteries for Tesla under it's own name.

https://r.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO40237840Q9A120C1905M00
Sorry I didn't find english article.

 

[flexus]

Here it is in English

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Bu...onic-to-build-electric-car-batteries-together

So basically all Japanese OEMs except Nissan will be benefitting from this. And it seems that Toyota invests necessary amount to not to lack behind rest of the world in EVs but it's main goal is next gen of EVs. Toyota/Lexus is always one step forward

 

[Will1991]

Finally, some definitive news regarding Toyota's BEV's! raise:

It seems like it will not be solid state batteries, and let's hope the 50% beyond current HV's is near Tesla's.

 

[Joaquin Ruhi]

It seems like it will not be solid state batteries...

Actually, both the Nikkei Asian Review link Flexus posted above and an earlier Nikkei story from December 2017 specifically state that Panasonic and Toyota will jointly collaborate on, research and explore solid state batteries, albeit, possibly, in a separate agreement.