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Lexus Planning "Big Engine" Turbocharger?
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Something like the TMG TS650 
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So excited!!
And Lighter! And F Car will be a perfect combo
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Sounds promising ...maybe something we can expect in the next iteration of F cars
Lexus clearly said they can still extract a lot of power from this RCF v8 engine without using a turbo. I for one dont see the point of attaching a turbo in a big engine like this v8 pluss this v8 is not slack on power. If the RCF can equal the lap time of the M4 weighing that much, what would have happend if it was as light as the M4? it was gonna distroy the M5,
Not true. Ferrari, Porsche and BMW M can build NA engines, yet they also go turbo. Simply because it is cheaper and makes it easy faking consumption and emission figures.
Anyway once Toyota gets back to FI, they'll own the market.
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It's all speculation, but my feeling is that the GS F & RC F will remain N/A for this generation. If Lexus is making a V8 turbo, I would imagine it debuts with either the production LF-LC or the next-generation LS.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the twin-turbo V8 developed by TMG is the basis of whatever is eventually released.
I believe Audi and Benz are using new 4.0 V-8s with turbos producing 450-500hp+
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From what I've gathered, next V-6 and V-8 get boost but what I am unsure of is if the hybrids also use these engines or get a less complicated N/A version.....
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I think forced induction on future Lexus F models is maybe less probable than we would want/expect. I think the non-F's will have turbo chargers because they are inexpensive in terms of what is gained, and is the most logical evolution of Lexus' engine line-up. But the future of performance is honestly in the electric motors and all wheel drive. Especially for the Japanese automakers who must make vehicles to the Japanese governments standards/expectations.
The NSX has the electric motors, the next-gen GT-R will likely be a hybrid set-up, and Mitsubishi is rather bonkers with their affinity for hybrid drivetrains. Please also remember than Toyota has a Le Mans Prototype. A V8+electric motors on the LC F makes the most sense under Yaguchi, as he can still retain a visceral NA V8, hooked up to the two electric motors. Paired with a Toyota twin-clutch transmission that has been being developed since before the LFA (it was suppose to go into the LFA).
All wheel drive is probably the future of most high performance cars, because putting the power to the ground is not so easy once you are above ~550HP and your car is made out of carbon fiber. [Unless your car is just heavy, a la that fatty, the RC F or SRT Hellcats.] So no, I do not expect to see forced induction in future F models, but definitely on non-F's. I don't know when to even expect an LC to be released, but I imagine not anytime soon, so that would mean even more time would have passed, and more likely to receive the electric motors.
I feel the LC will be the more attainable LFA, so I think it will have some sort of groundbreaking changes for Lexus. [i.e. dual-clutch, different powertrain, more carbon fiber.] I think it was Yaguchi who said when they design the F cars, they do not try to develop the cars to be analogs of ///M's or AMG's, and those cars have the Twin Turbos. And for those of you that still don't understand F Marque... F Marque is rather different, they just does what they want, not really caring about comparisons.
It's probably safe to say, if you want twin turbos, go get an M or AMG car. There's probably some reason that TMG TT V8 was never pushed as a performance motor in an F.
The NSX has the electric motors, the next-gen GT-R will likely be a hybrid set-up, and Mitsubishi is rather bonkers with their affinity for hybrid drivetrains. Please also remember than Toyota has a Le Mans Prototype. A V8+electric motors on the LC F makes the most sense under Yaguchi, as he can still retain a visceral NA V8, hooked up to the two electric motors. Paired with a Toyota twin-clutch transmission that has been being developed since before the LFA (it was suppose to go into the LFA).
All wheel drive is probably the future of most high performance cars, because putting the power to the ground is not so easy once you are above ~550HP and your car is made out of carbon fiber. [Unless your car is just heavy, a la that fatty, the RC F or SRT Hellcats.] So no, I do not expect to see forced induction in future F models, but definitely on non-F's. I don't know when to even expect an LC to be released, but I imagine not anytime soon, so that would mean even more time would have passed, and more likely to receive the electric motors.
I feel the LC will be the more attainable LFA, so I think it will have some sort of groundbreaking changes for Lexus. [i.e. dual-clutch, different powertrain, more carbon fiber.] I think it was Yaguchi who said when they design the F cars, they do not try to develop the cars to be analogs of ///M's or AMG's, and those cars have the Twin Turbos. And for those of you that still don't understand F Marque... F Marque is rather different, they just does what they want, not really caring about comparisons.
It's probably safe to say, if you want twin turbos, go get an M or AMG car. There's probably some reason that TMG TT V8 was never pushed as a performance motor in an F.
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Some great thoughts and insights here. I was excited about the NX being the first to use a turbo engine but ultimately disappointed with it's portly weight, which hampers performance. I look forward to seeing this engine in the IS and GS, as I think it will be a great performer there.
Going forward, turbocharged V6s and V8s sound great to me... but as an enthusiast, it's hard to not be sad that the days of N/A engines seem to be coming to a close.
Going forward, turbocharged V6s and V8s sound great to me... but as an enthusiast, it's hard to not be sad that the days of N/A engines seem to be coming to a close.
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Sounds like a 600HP Lexus LSF is a sure bet now, and a great idea.
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