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Teased: New Lexus F SPORT Model on the Way

Lexus F SPORT Teaser

Lexus has shared an early look of their next vehicle launch with Lexus Enthusiast, giving us an advance teaser before any other media outlets. But what does this teaser image reveal? Look closely enough, and there’s plenty of information that can be deciphered — let’s take a deep dive and see what’s what.

Despite the blurry details, this is clearly the same cover used on the 2UR-GSE 5.0L V8 engine from the RC F & GS F:

There are certainly no rules in regards to engine cover design, and there’s every possibility of a new powertrain lurking under this plastic shield. However, for the sake of analysis, let’s assume the V8 is the engine. The major difference is the logo — instead of the stylized F of the Lexus high-performance F brand, this new vehicle will be released as an F SPORT product.

The LC 500 is the only existing model to have the V8 and not offer a F SPORT option, but it feels too late in the coupe’s lifecycle to introduce such a model (Lexus does not generally change the engine cover as part of the F SPORT package). It could also be a V8 option for the LS, though again, the timing doesn’t seem right and the chance of aggravating current LS owners seems too great a risk.

All of this runaround logic brings us to the most obvious option — Lexus trademarked the IS 500 nameplate last year, and rumors from the usually-reliable Best Car Magazine suggest a V8 version of the IS has been in the pipeline for some time.

If this ends up being the vehicle behind the teaser, there’s really only one question left — will it simply be an engine option, or will it lead to bigger changes to the sports sedan? Are we about to see the return of IS F, albeit with a different nameplate?

More details are sure to come in the following days, stay tuned for more updates about this vehicle as we get closer to the reveal date.

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it is IS. the rear windows is 100% clear%.

i just don't see the ttv6 in it. we don't know what happens with the RC, if it gets extended facelift or leaves place to IS and LC for coupe choice.

RC and RCF still have 1 or 2 more years left. 2022 might be the last year. They refreshed RCF in 2020 with updates and added a TE. Theoretically, the new 2UR does not fit in the IS engine bay. RCF's engine bay has the same width as the GS, which is why it fits the 2UR barely. Also, the 2UR engine is expensive to produce so an IS F-Sport would not be priced that high considering it is supposed to be a volume seller like the 340i or TLX Type S with just more power and some some tweaks. Also, I believe it would have been called ISF and not F-Sport.
didn't they also say they wouldn't be using the v8 in anything sub 90k or something to that effect

Which is why I suspect the IS500 carries the 3.4L TT V6 from the LS500 instead of the 5L V8.

Also, set your reminders Lexus fans :

FINALLY.

After YEARS of disappointment from Toyota/Lexus, it feels DAMN GOOD to know that tomorrow will put an end to that disappointment.

Regardless of powertrain, 2UR or not, Lexus is finally addressing the main issue with marketing F-Sport and that's great news.
didn't they also say they wouldn't be using the v8 in anything sub 90k or something to that effect

This was, I believe, in relation to the new generation of V8s that are allegedly stillborn.
Dammit... Lexus took too damn long 🤬 I just bought a car 🤦🏻‍♂️
In my opinion the IS with the V8 is what Lexus needs. The GSF is too big and now discontinued. The RCF is a heavy non dynamic car with an old interior and dated now. I had an 09 ISF and loved it but was dropped in 2014 as you all know. The Supra hype is over now, Toyota sales are way up, so its seems like perfect timing. The new IS tweaks to exterior and exterior are very nice, and with the dynamic package it handles so much better. Stuff the V8 in there and I believe you got a winner, and I would bye one right away....Cant wait for the reveal tomorrow!
Betting on V8. It is toyota's last hurrah before ICE r&d gets iced itself. Toyota is "pushing sports" car near ICE lifetime (which ends within 5-10 years) so they can be recognized as "see we had sports cars."
At min: 3.5 V6 TT to compete with ACura TLX
At Max: V8

Either way, win win.
Dammit... Lexus took too damn long 🤬 I just bought a car 🤦🏻‍♂️
Am afraid it will be the same for me, when they present what I want...
Please car gods, give me multiple reveals - IS500 F-Sport and a mighty new IS-F. I’ve been a good, patient boy.
In my opinion the IS with the V8 is what Lexus needs. The GSF is too big and now discontinued. The RCF is a heavy non dynamic car with an old interior and dated now. I had an 09 ISF and loved it but was dropped in 2014 as you all know. The Supra hype is over now, Toyota sales are way up, so its seems like perfect timing. The new IS tweaks to exterior and exterior are very nice, and with the dynamic package it handles so much better. Stuff the V8 in there and I believe you got a winner, and I would bye one right away....Cant wait for the reveal tomorrow!

That is quite an erroneous statement. RCF pulled almost 1.00 G on the skidpad in tests. Its lap times average within 1 - 2% of that of an M4. Only the LFA managed a better than 1.00 g lateral grip number. Yes, it is heavy, but that is the price of the added chassis rigidity, suspension work and big brakes, cooling, wheels etc., but the IS500 in all likelihood would not be lighter given an IS350 F-Sport is already 3800+ lbs with RWD. Besides, the new M4/M3 are also 3900 - 4000 lbs.

Combined with the TE, it is most track oriented platform right now based on GT class homologation for racing. An IS F-Sport is not about to outhandle a much more premium priced RCF unless Lexus gives similar power, suspension, big brake kit, TVD and chassis rigidity. At which point, it is pretty much a full blown new gen ISF and not an F-Sport. An IS350 F-Sport is already around $56K. If we added all of the bells and whistles, it is easily going to be a base price around $70K for this new F-Sport model.
Yeap it is IS. But it would be cool if it was something new like TX.
Please car gods, give me multiple reveals - IS500 F-Sport and a mighty new IS-F. I’ve been a good, patient boy.

Yeah similar to what caddy offered with the blackwings. A TT V6 and a beast of a V8.
Hopefully it's not the smaller brother of the UX lol.
Hopefully it's not the smaller brother of the UX lol.
If it's a Yaris gr based lexus with a V8 I'd be okay with that
No one yet considered the possibility of a hybrid or all electric IS F-Sport. Again, they say "dawn of a new era". I keep going back to that. To me, that means there is a radical departure from how things were done previously.
No one yet considered the possibility of a hybrid or all electric IS F-Sport. Again, they say "dawn of a new era". I keep going back to that. To me, that means there is a radical departure from how things were done previously.

This. I am secretly hoping for e drive empowered IS500. Downtuned V8 plus electric torque which I imagine they can map around driving feel better than they can forced induction.

I've been saying hybrid performance forever.

This whole thing started with a hybrid GS racecar. It's a natural evolution.

Why use an ES as the lone mule for it?
No one yet considered the possibility of a hybrid or all electric IS F-Sport. Again, they say "dawn of a new era". I keep going back to that. To me, that means there is a radical departure from how things were done previously.

What if its the old LS600hl Hybrid System, Toyota still uses the system in century
What if its the old LS600hl Hybrid System, Toyota still uses the system in century

The LC500h hybrid system could also be an option, but cost or size might be an issue.
Guys, slowly, slowly!!! This is Lexus we are talking about. It will be the 2GR-FKE tuned to give an additional 2 hp!
Guys, slowly, slowly!!! This is Lexus we are talking about. It will be the 2GR-FKE tuned to give an additional 2 hp!
that is not a new era but the same one.

i hope lexus disappoints by putting an old engine in it and no modern electric tech, plain simple 2ur-gse.
that is not a new era but the same one.

i hope lexus disappoints by putting an old engine in it and no modern electric tech, plain simple 2ur-gse.

How it is old era if you can't buy it. I think it refers to f-sport models being available with power upgrades.
Lexus needed a car to keep the Supra humble, maybe this is it.
I know this is not going to happen but I literally had a dream last night of a four door LC...
I know this is not going to happen but I literally had a dream last night of a four door LC...

Sign me up lol
I know this is not going to happen but I literally had a dream last night of a four door LC...


Finally someone wants the same
Totally agree
Money is ready
Finally someone wants the same
Totally agree
Money is ready
Seriously I woke up and was holy **** we have a four door LC...oh wait I was dreaming damn lol
Lexus doesn't need four door LC. They need sport SUV like P. Cayenne, MB GLE Coupe, BMW X6, etc.
I hate the though called Coupe SUV
They are neither coupe nor SUV nor having the capacity of a real CUV!
I love the idea of IS500 using the 3.5L V6 TT (~450hp and 400+ ft-tq) than the 5.0 V8. I don't know if the 3.5 or lighter than the 5.0 or Not but the tunability of the TT is potential. Maybe the return of the "new 2JZ" in the form of 3.5L V6.

Or perhaps Lexus will give us a 2.0L I4 Turbo with Battery - A new Era, eh?
No one yet considered the possibility of a hybrid or all electric IS F-Sport. Again, they say "dawn of a new era". I keep going back to that. To me, that means there is a radical departure from how things were done previously.

This. Especially with the announcement of Direct4 this last December, it could well be a possibility of some sort of electrification and with the statement "A new era of F SPORT Performance vehicles is coming" we know it's going to be more than 1 model going forward. With the way the industry is going to PHEV and full electric, at least to me, it has to do something with e-drive.

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