First Impressions of the 2019 Lexus ES & ES F SPORT


Last week, I attended a unique event, something I’ve never seen before. Lexus had invited North American media to see the next-generation ES sedan, synchronized at the very same time it would debut at the Beijing Motor Show.

Lexus ES Media Presentation

This kind of production brings a sense of importance to the ES launch, and for good reason. Two major markets, Western Europe and Japan, will offer the ES for the very first time, making it a truly global Lexus model. This new level of responsibility, coupled with the task of following up the recent LC coupe and LS sedan, sets up a challenging situation all round.

And even as the cover is pulled aside and I see the ES in real life, I’m preoccupied. There’s an elephant in the room, one that has been dominating conversations among the Lexus faithful — what does this mean for the GS?

Lexus ES Launch

Let’s go back to the spring of last year, when the future of the Lexus ES sedan became directly linked with its GS stablemate. Japanese magazine Mag-X had just reported the next-generation ES would become the global mid-size sedan and replace the GS in all markets.

This turned out to be a divisive issue among enthusiasts, who lean predominantly towards the GS as a proper competitor to the Mercedes E-Class and BMW 5-series. Should the ES become the default Lexus mid-size, it was discussed, there would need to be some concessions towards performance — perhaps a smaller wheelbase, maybe a more powerful engine, possibly all-wheel drive to support that additional horsepower.

Lexus ES

With the seventh-generation ES revealed, Lexus has made it clear that the two models are not destined to become one and the same. The next-generation ES will be offered in place of the GS around the world, but only as an iteration of itself.

How did this happen? With so much of Lexus branding revolving around performance, how does their core mid-size product become a front-wheel drive cruiser with more rear interior space than the top-of-the-range LS?

Quite simply, it doesn’t. Whatever happens to the GS, be it cancelation or reinvention, will have little to do with this new ES. Through two successive full model changes, Lexus was never able to capitalize on the success of the second-generation GS sports sedan, and in a shrinking car market, something had to give.

The ES is already the best-selling Lexus sedan in the world, and that’s because it stands apart from the rest of automotive luxury. This is a car that is priced like an entry-level, specced out like a mid-size, and sized like a flagship. The ES defies any classification or segment, and that is the essence of its appeal.

Lexus ES Side Profil

In fact, the new seventh-generation ES takes that outsider status and elevates the sedan to a new high. Borrowing the LS design has transformed the exterior personality, and the introduction of the first ES F SPORT model brings the promise of a better driving experience. Design and dynamics are where the current model struggles, and while handling is the story for another day, the change to the exterior is profound.

The interior, rather plain in black, lights up when some contrasting colors are introduced:

Lexus ES Interior

The ES will be the first Lexus to be sold with Apple CarPlay, and the cabin layout takes full advantage, moving the screen closer to the driver. Everything still runs through the Remote Touch trackpad, but navigating the Apple interface is natural and sensible.

In brief, the new ES is a significant generation-over-generation upgrade, with a cohesive overall design and appealing interior technology. It also stands to reason that the ES will continue to be a value-packed luxury sedan perfect for a significant number of customers. Its appeal is undiminished, and all the more likely to grow. There’s only one major question left — what’s this thing like to drive?

Lexus ES: Sixth Generation
Comments
ssun30
Why are they not showing regular interior trim in the US press release? That F-sport interior looks barren. How are they "redefining luxury" when they show an interior that is not luxurious at all? Someone is not doing their job properly. Show some wood!

The global version looks good.
I assume they want to focus on the first ever F-Sport. Also if you read the press release the F-Sport debuts an all new trim inspired by Samurai Swords. They are going to really push this ES in a different direction than ones in the past.

ssun30
The only reason these still sell in meaningful numbers is that current generation ES has no AWD.
That is not true at all. AWD is a small take of sales and mostly in the NE region of the US
Gecko
What engine is in "ES 260"?
A25A-FKS. It does have 30hp more compared to the outgoing ES250. So I guess "260" is justified. It aims squarely at the E260L, that's very obvious.

Also, Lexus registered the "ES260" trademark in China last November. Apparently I missed that.
ssun30
Someone brought up a good point in the now locked speculation thread. Maybe no AWD at launch is to milk every last bit from current gen IS and GS. The only reason these still sell in meaningful numbers is that current generation ES has no AWD.
Definitely, they wouldn't replace a RWD/AWD GS with a FWD ES, it goes against the sportier image they are trying to get
ssun30
A25A-FKS. It does have 30hp more compared to the outgoing ES250. So I guess "260" is justified. It aims squarely at the E260L, that's very obvious.
What a strange decision. V6 also has 30+ more hp but sticks with "350."
Gecko
What a strange decision. V6 also has 30+ more hp but sticks with "350."
It's for chinese domestic market only, where they do arbitrary numbering all the time. "260" sounds much better than "250". The rest of the world will still use the ES250 name. The two are identical.

mikeavelli
That is not true at all. AWD is a small take of sales and mostly in the NE region of the US
Fine, I take back what I said. What kind of numbers does Lexus sell in NE? How's their presence there?
Why are there no photos of the non F-Sport car...?
Will be getting all white es hybrid f sport!
Gecko
Why are there no photos of the non F-Sport car...?
They have some in the global version no?

It really bugs me how little interior detail they are showing, but somehow they feel compelled to put an image of the brake disk on there (and it's just a generic brake disk!). What are the PR people smoking?
^If Avalon reviews are any indication, hybrid will surely be the car to get. Many testers have noted that real world performance feels similar between hybrid and V6, but the hybrid doesn't seem to have bad torque steer... plus 44 MPG.
ssun30
They have some in the global version no?

It really bugs me how little interior detail they are showing, but somehow they feel compelled to put an image of the brake disk on there (and it's just a generic brake disk!). What are the PR people smoking?
The Lexus Japan website does a way better PR job, showing off a properly luxurious interior with a good legroom shot.
https://lexus.jp/brand/motor_show/beijing2018/



Wish they'd used real-world photos for the exterior, though they still look good. Curiously it also has a rear spoiler. Thought the spoiler is just an F-Sport thing. Hopefully it's optional.


Not an ideal photo opportunity during the reveal, wasn’t able to capture much.

Plus side, I did spend quite a bit of time with the standard and F SPORT, and we have a lot to be excited about. More soon!
ydooby
The Lexus Japan website does a way better PR job, showing off a properly luxurious interior with a good legroom shot.
https://lexus.jp/brand/motor_show/beijing2018/



Wish they'd used real-world photos for the exterior, though they still look good.



The F sport version doesn’t do ES the justice. Too sporty. Thank God, Lexus do still have the luxury version for ES. Any full shot of the rear?
















ssun30
Wait...what is ES260? Now they are doing the "power equivalency" trick with naturally aspirated engines?
The ES260 is only marketed in China. It has the same engine as the ES250 marketed elsewhere. 250 in China is an Internet slang for "half crazy"/silly, so they avoided using that number only in China.

See:
https://baike.baidu.com/item/250/16010600
ydooby
The ES260 is only a marketed in China. It has the same engine as the ES250 marketed elsewhere. 250 in China is a slang for "half crazy"/silly, so they avoided using that number only in China.

See:
https://baike.baidu.com/item/250/16010600
Aha, forgot to mention that. The "250"s had been selling here for a decade. It's so obvious that it's funny how their marketing department missed this so long.
What an absolute disappointment. I really hope they don't kill off the GS as this car will not be able to fill the shoes of both vehicles. Australians don't even get the F-sport. We just get the hybrid in either luxury or sports luxury trim levels. The V6 is only a smidge more powerful than the camry and Avalon and less powerful than the GS. which makes sense. This is FWD only.

Please don't kill of the GS...oh please oh please...
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ydooby
The ES260 is only marketed in China. It has the same engine as the ES250 marketed elsewhere. 250 in China is an Internet slang for "half crazy"/silly, so they avoided using that number only in China.

See:
https://baike.baidu.com/item/250/16010600
Ok but it was not a problem for the current generation ES that has been bearing 250 badge in China for years. I think the reason is different.




























































TMG
Ok but it was not a problem for the current generation ES that has been bearing 250 badge in China for years. I think the reason is different.
Nah.. they are simply reacting to the derogatory nickname the ES250 had been given by some Chinese people. Lexus just didn't realize that when they first marketed the 250 in China.

For example:
https://read01.com/nOnJBG.html#.WuAYisgvyUk
British Autocar is reporting that the ES is indeed going to the UK (therefore a global model) and it is also REPLACING the GS, due to be discontinued next month.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ow/lexus-es-revealed-ahead-beijing-show-debut

Are these rumors true?

Official Spanish website confirms its debut in Spain: https://www.lexusauto.es/car-models/es/#hero
asoksevil
British Autocar is reporting that the ES is indeed going to the UK (therefore a global model) and it is also REPLACING the GS, due to be discontinued next month.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ow/lexus-es-revealed-ahead-beijing-show-debut

Are these rumors true?

Official Spanish website confirms its debut in Spain: https://www.lexusauto.es/car-models/es/#hero
I honestly don't think ES will replace GS anytime soon
It's still a very typical ES, its FWD, it still shares platform with its Toyota sibling.
It doesn't feel very "upscale" either. The interior design and parts used are closer to the UX, which is meant to be a model to drive sales more than a status symbol like LS / LC. Yes its going to be better than its predecessor in every category, undeniably. The newly introduced f sport trim looks quite cool, but we all know its more of a appearance package than under hood changes.
There's going to be some cost cutting here and there and share parts to keep the price low. The ES will still be an ES.
I still have hope for GS, and I'm pretty sure once @carmaker gets more info, he will be the first to post them here.
TMG
Ok but it was not a problem for the current generation ES that has been bearing 250 badge in China for years. I think the reason is different.
It's not the prime reason for sure, but the ES250 also happens to be the worst selling ES. Lexus sells more 300h than 250.
Love the interior
The overhang is awful, 3rd rear side from c pillar and trunk looks a lot like a Camry
& Still no AWD version , Nissan make it for Altima !!!!
W
I honestly don't know why Lexus even bothers to launch this in Europe. It will be available with one (!) single, 215 hp hybrid powertrain with NO AWD option and NO estate version, in a segment, where all of its rivals (My local dealer said this is indeed, to replace the GS), the 5 series, E-class and the A6 are all offering: Estate version, AWD along with more powerful engine options. Come on. I know it doesn't make too much sense to have a 350 hp daily driver, and it's ok if you don't want to play along the rules of the playing field, but then it's also ok not expect significant sales numbers. This thing is DOA in Europe.
KOHIPEET
I honestly don't know why Lexus even bothers to launch this in Europe. It will be available with one (!) single, 215 hp hybrid powertrain with NO AWD option and NO estate version, in a segment, where all of its rivals (My local dealer said this is indeed, to replace the GS), the 5 series, E-class and the A6 are all offering: Estate version, AWD along with more powerful engine options. Come on. I know it doesn't make too much sense to have a 350 hp daily driver, and it's ok if you don't want to play along the rules of the playing field, but then it's also ok not expect significant sales numbers. This thing is DOA in Europe.
Did you really think they will make a wagon ES? To sell like 500 of them?

Lexus EU sells only hybrids, it is 98% of their sales... thats how good IS 2.0t and NX 2.0t are selling, they are in 2%.
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A good looking sedan. I suppose it will eventually come with a more powerful hybrid version too. A wagon version, I wouldn't mind but highly doubt Lexus would do it, since sales figures for Lexus ES wagon would be very, very small. Yes BMW, MB, Volvo have them, but they are BMW, MB and Volvo, and have wagon versions since decades, difficult to find a spot in that market segment.

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