Japanese Launch of Lexus CT 200h in May?


Lexus LF-Ch

Japanese newspaper Chunichi Shimbun is reporting that the new Lexus CT200h will be on sale in Japan starting in May, adding credibility to rumors of a LF-Ch production model debuting at the Geneva Auto Show in March.

The newspaper also claims the new hybrid hatchback will be powered by same hybrid engine as the third-gen Toyota Prius, where it produces a modest combined 134hp. Too bad Google’s translation falls apart when it comes to price, claiming the CT 200h will start at ¥ 300 million ($3.3 million USD).

[Source: Chunichi Shimbun (translated)]

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  1. Wow that was fast!  (Assuming the report to be true).

  2. @Dan: That’s what I thought as well—the global response must be extremely positive to have the LF-Ch on such a fast track.

  3. 134hp? Meh call me when the F Version will be ready, and I’ve considered the tail lights one of the best parts from the concept, with the big RX ones the car might look fat, well I guess we have to wait and see.

  4. @SS: I would certainly expect the CT 200h to have more pep than the Prius, likely through some minor tuning. Something close to the 187hp HS 250h would be nice.

  5. @krew: You also have to remember that it isn’t only how much horsepower that makes it fast. It also depends on the weight, drag, etc. Performance should be close to that of the HS’s though.

    I would expect the CT200h to start below $30k. The Audi A3 starts at $27k so it shouldn’t cost much more than that.smile

  6. @James: I agree, but that extra weight due to the hybrid batteries is a killer—I would have preferred that the Camry Hybrid engine had been used, like with the HS 250h. I suppose there’s nothing to stop Lexus from adding another engine option. LOL

  7. @krew:
    I would think that if it used the HS250’s engine the price would be too high. A Prius with leather and 17 inch wheels cost $27K, which is probably the target price for the CT. If this thing gets 50mpg I don’t think people are going to care about performance smile.

    I also wouldn’t rule out a more performance oriented version in the future if the CT sells well. Actually we don’t even know if we’ll be getting this car in the US yet (Canada might get it because they have gotten a lot of small luxury cars not offered in the US).

  8. Canada, Canada, Canada!!! raspberry

    Car might be 3 million yen, which would make more sense… $33,390 USD I hope thats fully equipped or something.

    I do hope we get one that outputs around 200 hp… I’ll be happy with AWD smile winter fun.

  9. @(Cj): A Lexus hot hatch? That sounds interesting. cool

  10. “200h” means the total cumulative output of both the gas engine & electric motor(s) will be around 200bhp, so expect around 150 useable bhp total from the Hybrid system. N.America will likely get a more powerful CT250h or 300h.

  11. @LEXUSBOY:
    200h means that the performance is comparable with a 2.0 liter petrol engine. Same as with al other Lexus Hybrids. GS 450h > 3.5 liter petrol with the performace of a 4.5 liter V8

  12. people

    you all forget that Lexus trademarks CT 200h, CT 300h and CT 400h for entry-level Euro model

    so technically if the CT200h take the drive train of the prius
    the CT300h will take the one of HS
    the CT400h will take the one of RX

    it’s that simple

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/31/lexus-trademarks-ct-200h-ct-300h-and-ct-400h-for-entry-level-eu/

  13. @mtema99: Only thing we don’t know is if all or any of those engine options will be available at launch and which markets will get which engines? smile

    I’m 100% sure MOST markets are going to get the CT 200h and we’ll probably get that model here on North America too. Only problem with the higher engine options is the price and if they’ll sell. Audi stopped selling the V6 A3 here in the US and they have never offered the S3 here because Americans don’t want to spend $35k for a hatchback.

    That’s what may prevent Lexus from offering anything more than the 200h model here. If the 200h sells well we may get the 300h but I highly doubt there will be a 400h. The engine bay of the spied model looks too small for the RX’s V6…

  14. @(Cj):

    i guess you are right Cj
    so that mean the CT400h will be for europe as S3 / 135i competitor
    but i have an idea to share
    is their any possibility that the CT400h engine may come from the GRMN SPORTS HYBRID Concept, based on a Toyota MR that is powered by an 3.3L V6 Hybrid engine with output around 400hp and with AWD system.

  15. @mtema99: Something that powerful would likely be called CT 500h cool
    That would be a rocket! But I think that powerplant will probably be in the next gen GS hybrid, and in the next gen Toyota Supra. As for the CT I really think that there will be a gas (non-hybrid version) at least here in the US. There have been a few US Lexus execs hinting at that. I imagine that we might have either the new 2.5L or 2.7L I4 performance tuned for 200+hp.

    If that happens then the gas version would compete with the gas version of the A3 here in the US, and the hybrid version would compete with the diesel version of the A3. In Europe I’ve heard they want an all hybrid lineup, so that means they’ll probably have a CT200h, CT300h, and maybe even CT400h.

  16. mtema99:people

    you all forget that Lexus trademarks CT 200h, CT 300h and CT 400h for entry-level Euro model

    so technically if the CT200h take the drive train of the prius
    the CT300h will take the one of HS
    the CT400h will take the one of RX

    it's that simple

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/31/lexus-trademarks-ct-200h-ct-300h-and-ct-400h-for-entry-level-eu/

    I think that sounds very logical and plausible,and I really like the idea of it covering such a wide range both in terms of price and performance. I’m very excited about this car! smile

  17. @Eljay:
    just waiting the real deal @ geneva

    and hope it ‘ll be a real competitor to 1-series & A3

  18. If the claims that the car is based on the Auris platform are correct,it’s certainly got a good foundation.I’ve driven the Auris on a couple of occasions and found it to be very refined and with the overall feel of a much more expencive vehicle.With a bit of Lexus-engineering added it should be a real sweetheart!

  19. Bart:@LEXUSBOY:
    200h means that the performance is comparable with a 2.0 liter petrol engine. Same as with al other Lexus Hybrids. GS 450h > 3.5 liter petrol with the performace of a 4.5 liter V8

    That was the initial explanation for the hybrid names from Lexus, but I read elsewhere (sorry, don’t remember where) that the numbers represent the total output of the gas & electric motors. For eg:-
    LS600hL = 5.0 V8- 389 bhp, electric motor- 221 bhp.
    So total = 610 bhp
    Hence “600h”
    The same will be true if you add the bhp numbers for other Lexus hybrids. I believe this is how the engineers gave the model designations, while the marketing people created the ‘comparable to’ explanation.
    Anyone else care to add…

  20. @LEXUSBOY:
    aha
    good point LEXUSBOY

  21. Awesome. A luxury alternative to SUV's for younger people who want a hatch for real activity. That's luxury.

  22. @LEXUSBOY: @mtema99:

    The LS 600h L can achieve tremendous performance numbers, but too bad the power is electronically limited to 438 bhp - reminds me of the Brabus version Mercedes with V12 biturbos.

    Does anyone know why the power is limited? I’m guessing that the CVT, the battery, and a third (possibly weird) reason are the problems. At least there seems to be plenty of torque since Lexus hasn’t been able to release any reliable numbers, but that theory is put down by LSh’s 0-60 time and complaints from auto critics.

  23. @WorldofLuxury: I think Lexus tends to err on the side of a conservative power approach for a number of reasons, including reliability, fuel economy, and smoother operation.  In the end though the LSh, although on paper competing with some V12s in output numbers, is a V8 hybrid with its own unique performance and environmental characteristics.  Mid-range acceleration is a key difference with the LS 460 in some reviews, with the difference not as readily apparent with the 0-60 time.

  24. @Dan: sigh… I guess. Excuse me for being a person all about bragging rights LOL